Posts by Half banana

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The fraud that is the 70 year desolation

by Crazyguy in

as we know being former jws that we were taught that jerusalem was destroyed then 70 years it would be desolate.

well this isn't about jerusalem and the 607/ 587 argument.

this is about the whole subject of the 70 years desolation being a huge bible fraud.

Half banana

"Bible truth" would be the oxymoron..............

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What masters degree would a Jw university offer?

by Chook in

masters degree in panda marketing..

Jehovah's Witnesses Crimes Against Fellow Jehovah's Witness Victims

by Hecce in

i ran a search and it seems that this was not posted before, there are 5 pages of criminal cases involving jws.. in the following criminal cases, the watchtower society - jehovah's witnesses religion served as the spiritual element of the perpetrator's and/or other actor's formative environment, or otherwise served as a major influencer of the perpetrator's and/or other actor's behavior.

the following cases are often tragic, and speak for themselves.. http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/familicide4.html.

Half banana

There's a lot of excruciating information on Bravehost about the misdemeanours of JWs. How about the mention of one JW missionary murdering a fellow missionary couple somewhere out in the south Pacific.

What a desperate human tragedy for the Zaklar JW family. With three apparently delinquent young adult children who die one after the other in road accidents, being drunk or chased by the police yet not allowed blood when in hospital. The JW mother not surprisingly, later taking her own life.

Yes JWs are ordinary people but there is one psychological layer which does not help them once converted to this religion. Petty infringements of normal behaviour might be or apologised for by the average person, perhaps compensated with a small gift or simply a with a twinge of guilt and a decision not to repeat it, of course depending on the type of error.

For a JW the conflict between the perfection demanded and normal life ("You must be perfect as I am perfect") creates an unhealthy tension. Often leading to lack of self worth or mental self-harm if not physical harm. Some individuals may think that they are condemned by God and therefore go through the motions expected in their high control religion but internally thinking they are already doomed.They might act according to the hopelessness and helplessness of their situation, especially when alcohol has removed their better judgement.

Beware the bad psychology of Biblical thinking!

I have not been able to find out who is behind the JW Bravehost site even after asking them directly. Has anyone any insight on who is producing this material? What is problematic for the researcher is the absence of references in most cases.

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For Christians: What do you think about an Armagedon and the Afterlife

by John Davis in

i don't mean for anyone to get into argument over this, i just want to hear what people believe.i hope that no one will mock or argue with someone else about their beliefs, i know that i won't in this topic.. i still believe in a christian god, not what jws believe, but believe that there has to be something after this life.

i am not sure about how armageddon would go, would it be like how evangelicals believe with a rapture or timing or anything, though i still believe in a form of armageddon.

i do think that all good people will go to heaven but i don't believe in a hell.

Half banana

Beliefs are meaningless unless based on evidence

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For Christians: What do you think about an Armagedon and the Afterlife

by John Davis in

i don't mean for anyone to get into argument over this, i just want to hear what people believe.i hope that no one will mock or argue with someone else about their beliefs, i know that i won't in this topic.. i still believe in a christian god, not what jws believe, but believe that there has to be something after this life.

i am not sure about how armageddon would go, would it be like how evangelicals believe with a rapture or timing or anything, though i still believe in a form of armageddon.

i do think that all good people will go to heaven but i don't believe in a hell.

Half banana

James Jack said

what the Hell is the real truth,

It's the obvious question to ask but only if you are religious!

However for the rest of mankind, this question does not arise because the rest of mankind does not imagine there is one set of holy doctrines which place divine "Truth" on a lofty pedestal.

It is a matter of coming to terms that most of us have had the wrong ideas indelibly planted in our minds that "out there" something special exists for our benefit --there is no credible evidence for this.

Instead of reading more of the Bible and religious works, get to grips with understanding how life evolved, understand the geological epochs and the layers and fossils which determine the sequence of life forms and which enable us to give dates to them. Study human biology, the human brain, its psychology, and the literature and art which is the product of both the imagination and the human spirit. Learn history and how power and wealth which is held by the few, keeps the masses subdued, importantly learn how they do it.

These are truths from which knowledge of reality comes...... not the fanciful tales of demented zealots found in the magic myths of the BIble.

Sorry John Davis , you didn't want to hear from me.

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I need some help

by Akid48 in

well let me start with my age is 13 and i have been thinking about this jw thing and i need help i just dont know if i want to be one any more.. the help i need is some one to send me some links to places i can research i just dont know if i want to study with a jw any more..

Half banana

Well done Akid for finding this site--and welcome!

I started to get involved at your age and boy do I regret it. The worst decision of my life. Believe me after wasting years as a deluded member of this cult I am so glad I escaped and started to live again.

Let me just say that the teachings of JWs are all intended to make them servants if not slaves to their leaders and their teachings. JWs will strongly deny this because they can't see where they stand from being firmly stuck inside the organisation knowing that there are threats of punishment should they start to question the doctrines.

I'll be brief; the Bible is hopelessly contradictory and a work of propaganda, not surprising then that Christianity and JWs follow the in the same pattern; asserting things to be divine truths but what is really only propaganda. The lovely promised paradise is just too good to be true, it is a utopian dream, it will not happen and neither will Armageddon, they are fictions.

I wish I knew these things before I studied with JWs.

All the best to you as you learn that adult life is more complicated than you were thought. The best answer to all these questions is to learn to be able to understand how to distinguish between what is true and what is religious salesmanship...in other words do aim to get a good college education and learn that truth starts and ends with evidence not faith.

Do keep posting and let us know what you are thinking.

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March 22, 2017 TO ALL CONVENTION COMMITTEES Re: Discontinuation of Physical Distribution of Convention Releases

by wifibandit in

march 22, 2017 to all convention committees re: discontinuation of physical distribution of convention releases.

Half banana

It's another chink in the crumbling Watchtower edifice!

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psychopath

by mann377 in

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very interesting article.

read this and see if this reminds you of seven men in warwick or some you have known in the congregation.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4718414/psychopaths-better-learning-lie-others.html.

Half banana

Leaders of God's very own private religion........all going straight to heaven upon dying to rule with God's son and the angels in heavenly glory.........controlling the earthly peasants and cajoling them into subservience...... now remember we are much more important than you and your mere family ties (but before the family splits, do assign your will to us with all of your family inheritance first).......if you don't believe we are personally appointed by God, our message to you is: get lost.

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21st Century French Connection or How the French got the last Laugh against JWs in Russia

by Slidin Fast in

so, this journal mentions fecris, a french sponsored anti-cult ngo active in russia.

i for one knew nothing of that.

it seems that the much vaunted, long-winded financial victory in france kind of back-fired.

Half banana

Power to their elbow if it exposes the abusive cultic nature of JW org.

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I left the organization

by Issa in

i left the organization.

my awakening was this month of july, the first week of july.

i couldn't answer my own questions about the organization or the doctrines, i couldn't understand the prophecies, i couldn't figure quite well what i was feeling.

Half banana

Hi Issa, I'm glad you have made a decision to leave.

From personal experience I suffered a giant family rift even though I faded but I wouldn't have it any other way. I was treated as if I was disfellowshipped by some of my old friends but after a short time I began to feel happy that I had left. After all how can anyone with a real conscience preach at the doors about something they know is not true?

I made my decision to live my own life by my own judgement and choices and my life became much more exciting and meaningful. I'm sure yours will too!

Do keep posting and let us know how you are getting on--you will have opposition but it won't be forever. All the best to you in your escape from the cult.